Hello, I am working on a project consisting of several micro apps, set up using Nx. The feedback loop is very slow, so I was wondering if anyone has worked with something similar and has any advice on keeping the feedback loop tighter. Nx builds the Vue.js 2/3 apps using Vite, and I would love to be able to use hot reload.
Hi. I am a backend developer in a company tasked with recoding a legacy application, choosing the right technology stack, and then later hiring for that stack.
This is a freight/logistics/courier application made 15 years ago in PHP with no modern framework used. In this application, customers from different countries login into their accounts and add a huge number of shipments, like let's say 500, and then, later on, generate PDFs for them after calling third-party APIs. This application has API integrations with lots of other companies and also offers API access to its own software as well. This application is also used in-house by warehouse people to scan different shipments using barcode scanners and to process shipments by performing different actions on them. The database being used currently is MySQL.
Now we have the choice to write this application in a modern technology stack. Performance, speed, reliability, and security are the primary concerns here.
Should I go with Java/Spring Boot with Angular2+ as the front end or PHP/Laravel with Vue.js as the front end?
Switching at this point from PHP to Java will not be hard if Java is considered better here because we can hire as per our final decision.
Vue.js with PHP/Laravel (vue.js is much better than Angular for building the frontend. I feel much cleaner and faster). you already using MySQL database PHP is prefered.
Are your only choices Java+Angular or PHP+Vue? My recommendation as an engineer with 10 years in a few fortune 50 companies:
(Option 1) React: This will probably be your best bet as it has a huge market share and will be the easiest to hire for. Less opinionated which leads to a billion different libraries to choose from but also potential for bloat when hiring developers that want to use the tools and libraries they know.
(Option 2) Angular: This is also a good option still a decent market share share slightly more difficult to hire for but more suitable for large scale applications as it is more opinionated and more structured, in general, than React is.
(Option 3) Vue: Ive never recommended this before but it is a fine option, will be harder to hire for but not that much, not as mature as the other options but has as solid following.
I typically would never recommend PHP, it used to be a trouble child but in recent years has picked up in quality. Still would recommend lots of other options first but if you want to minimize the amount of refactoring this could still be fine.
Java/Kotlin great options, Java is a mature language that will interface with MySQL with no problems. Should be easy as any to hire for these roles.
Golang is a younger popular Language for building microservices architectures, could be a good option if you want to change the architecture to be more resilient.
Tons of other options here as well C# and .NET, NodeJS with something like NestJS, etc...
Thank you for the detailed answer.
we already have an application running on Angular and have a resource for it also so would be okay to just keep on going with Angular?
Our existing application on PHP has matured over the years and is mostly in maintenance mode. Would you still recommend to rewrite this in Java? Thanks
Angular is a perfectly acceptable option for a front-end framework as Google has committed to consistent LTS (long term support) with 6 month cadence on major releases. For reference I work with VMware on their UI and it is nearly 100% Angular and has worked very well for them.
Regarding backend, if you are in maintenance mode with PHP I dont see any reason you should need to rewrite unless you are unable to fix issues for reasons related to the language. Just remember to keep security updates current and should be fine.
Best of luck
As a Laravel developer, I'd have to say go with Laravel. Although you can move away from PHP, it means any of that legacy code will still need to be completely ported to Java or whatever other language you use. Whereas, staying with PHP, you may find it easier to re-use/adapt that existing code.
Of course, if you're going for a full rewrite, then that might not be a useful consideration. However, even a full rewrite will introduce a lot of changes. When having to do this kind of thing, I recommend changing as few things as possible at once. So staying in the same language while upgrading may keep some pain points down.
Hello everyone, I'm new to full stack web development and I'm trying to use Vue.js, PostgreSQL, and Node.js to make a localhost website (if that makes sense).
I've seen no tutorials on how to link the three technologies without using ExpressJS and I was wondering if it is even a good idea to use the said three technologies or whether I should just learn Express.js and watch a Youtube tutorial. Any help/advice/criticism is welcome.
It is pretty easy. You will need to create and express.js API with Nodejs and have the Postgreql in it. Then you can create your Vue Apps and connect to the express API. This will help; https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWKjhJtqVAbnadueQ-C5keMQQiQau_i0D
I used a similar setup but I wouldn't recommend it except if you absolutely must. Use something like NuxtJs.
If you are starting out with Vue.js and Node.js and wanting to avoid creating servers including local ones running Express.js and are willing to explore cloud services for the database, you may want to consider AWS Amplify or Google Cloud with Firebase to build out your application. While there is a learning curve in using additional technologies, the pay off is that there are tutorials, documentation and videos and there is scope for extending your application if you need to later.
I do not recommend Vue for a job, learn React or Angular
The open source web framework Express.js for Node.js enables programmers to create online apps and APIs. It offers a number of tools and functionality, including as templates, road handlers, renderers, and debugging tools, to make development simpler. The popular Express.js substitutes Koa.js, Hapi.js, Fastify, and Restify are also available.
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Look for tutorials on how to build a website, but don't get too caught up in the stack, it doesn't matter at your level. Just have fun, that's my suggestion. If you need some help, feel free to add me on discord
Hi, I am making a website and mobile app for service providers of my region to share their profiles and make posts and interact with the clients, I am considering using Vue.js because it's simple and great for working in teams; node in the backend and Flutter and Dart in the mobile app, with MySQL database, do you guys think that its a solid stack for a scalable website and app?
Great! Love the concept of building a new website and mobile app
I need a framework for my chat/cloud/calendar all-in-one solution web app.
Is Next.js and Vue.js also a alternative?
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Hi all - we've built a very custom and complex application and UI using custom Vue.js + Nuxt.js, which sits on top of a GraphQL API provided by Symfony.
It's a completely custom UI for administration with lots of complex data relationships and the way we've done it has worked very well... however...
Now we need to build a second part of the system, which is a simpler CRUD style application for managing a simpler data object, but one that still has many relationships. It doesn't need quite as much flexibility, but we do need to deliver it faster if possible.
We've looked at various options, for example: - What we've got (Symfony/GraphQL/Apollo/Vue/Nuxt) - A simpler version of the above using a REST API - Symfony + API-Platform + Vue3 - Native Symfony server rendered
When we consider other frameworks, we always seem to hit stumbling blocks - my lead developer is not keen to use anything that will restrict what he can do, but I also need to consider whether there are faster / cheaper / better solutions out there.
The frameworks all seem to be able to create the code to update / delete individual data tables with ease, but make it difficult / impossible when there are complex data relationships.
Does anyone have any other ideas before we continue the way we are doing things?
Thanks in advance.
Why don't you try Laravel + Inertia.js + Vue.js for this simpler application? It's feel cohesive and allows you to move quickly and maintain the same core (PHP + Vue) to simplify the maintenance.
I am planning on creating an application using the following tech-stack. Vue.js (TypeScript) for the front-end, Django (specifically Django REST framework) for the server-side work, and using PostgreSQL as the database. Is there any reason NOT to use this tech stack mentioned or are there better options? Without giving away too much info, my app will be logging information from the user, displaying this information, setting goals, displaying visual graphs, a friend system where you can add other people etc...
Great stack. Very productive and the vue development tools are excellent. The generic views from drf help a lot in productivity
Agreed, a very productive stack. Django takes care of a lot stuff for you down to the serialization of your data models, and Vue is just the best thing out there right now for front end projects, having good component structures while being flexible and easy to use.
Easy stack to start and develop your product. Vue is easy to learn and use, great support from the community if you have questions. Django is a powerful backend framework, the Django Rest Framework comes with a lot of generic views that you can use which will come in handy. Also, Django admin gives you and out of the box interface for all your admin/support needs.