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Amazon SQS vs Dramatiq: What are the differences?
Introduction
Amazon Simple Queue Service (SQS) and Dramatiq are both message queuing services that are commonly used in distributed systems. While they share some similarities, there are several key differences that set them apart.
Message Transport Protocol: Amazon SQS is based on the HTTP protocol, making it suitable for use in web-based applications. On the other hand, Dramatiq uses message brokers like RabbitMQ or Redis, allowing it to support various transport protocols, including AMQP and Redis Pub/Sub.
Message Acknowledgement: In Amazon SQS, messages are automatically deleted from the queue once they are retrieved by consumers. In contrast, Dramatiq requires consumers to explicitly acknowledge the processing of messages, ensuring more control over message reliability and durability.
Message Ordering: Amazon SQS guarantees that messages will be delivered in the same order they were sent, providing strict message ordering. In contrast, Dramatiq does not guarantee message ordering, allowing for better parallel processing and scalability.
Message Delay: Amazon SQS supports a built-in message delay feature, which allows messages to be held in the queue for a specified period before being delivered to consumers. Dramatiq does not have a built-in delay feature, so any delay functionality needs to be implemented separately.
Visibility Timeout: Amazon SQS provides a visibility timeout setting that allows a message to become invisible to other consumers for a specific period after it has been retrieved. This ensures that only one consumer processes the message at a time. In Dramatiq, this visibility timeout feature is not available by default, but can be implemented by using additional mechanisms like Redis locks.
Scaling and Pricing: Amazon SQS is a fully managed service, which means it automatically scales based on the load and there are no upfront costs. The pricing is based on the number of requests and data transfer. In contrast, Dramatiq requires manual scaling and infrastructure setup, making it more suitable for scenarios where fine-grained control and cost savings are required.
In summary, Amazon SQS is a scalable and fully managed message queuing service that is well-suited for web-based applications, while Dramatiq provides more control and flexibility with message processing and can be tailored to specific infrastructure requirements.
Hi! I am creating a scraping system in Django, which involves long running tasks between 1 minute & 1 Day. As I am new to Message Brokers and Task Queues, I need advice on which architecture to use for my system. ( Amazon SQS, RabbitMQ, or Celery). The system should be autoscalable using Kubernetes(K8) based on the number of pending tasks in the queue.
Hello, i highly recommend Apache Kafka, to me it's the best. You can deploy it in cluster mode inside K8S, thus you can have a Highly available system (also auto scalable).
Good luck
Hi, we are in a ZMQ set up in a push/pull pattern, and we currently start to have more traffic and cases that the service is unavailable or stuck. We want to: * Not loose messages in services outages * Safely restart service without losing messages (ZeroMQ seems to need to close the socket in the receiver before restart manually)
Do you have experience with this setup with ZeroMQ? Would you suggest RabbitMQ or Amazon SQS (we are in AWS setup) instead? Something else?
Thank you for your time
ZeroMQ is fast but you need to build build reliability yourself. There are a number of patterns described in the zeromq guide. I have used RabbitMQ before which gives lot of functionality out of the box, you can probably use the worker queues
example from the tutorial, it can also persists messages in the queue.
I haven't used Amazon SQS before. Another tool you could use is Kafka.
Both would do the trick, but there are some nuances. We work with both.
From the sound of it, your main focus is "not losing messages". In that case, I would go with RabbitMQ with a high availability policy (ha-mode=all) and a main/retry/error queue pattern.
Push messages to an exchange, which sends them to the main queue. If an error occurs, push the errored out message to the retry exchange, which forwards it to the retry queue. Give the retry queue a x-message-ttl and set the main exchange as a dead-letter-exchange. If your message has been retried several times, push it to the error exchange, where the message can remain until someone has time to look at it.
This is a very useful and resilient pattern that allows you to never lose messages. With the high availability policy, you make sure that if one of your rabbitmq nodes dies, another can take over and messages are already mirrored to it.
This is not really possible with SQS, because SQS is a lot more focused on throughput and scaling. Combined with SNS it can do interesting things like deduplication of messages and such. That said, one thing core to its design is that messages have a maximum retention time. The idea is that a message that has stayed in an SQS queue for a while serves no more purpose after a while, so it gets removed - so as to not block up any listener resources for a long time. You can also set up a DLQ here, but these similarly do not hold onto messages forever. Since you seem to depend on messages surviving at all cost, I would suggest that the scaling/throughput benefit of SQS does not outweigh the difference in approach to messages there.
I want to schedule a message. Amazon SQS provides a delay of 15 minutes, but I want it in some hours.
Example: Let's say a Message1 is consumed by a consumer A but somehow it failed inside the consumer. I would want to put it in a queue and retry after 4hrs. Can I do this in Amazon MQ? I have seen in some Amazon MQ videos saying scheduling messages can be done. But, I'm not sure how.
Mithiridi, I believe you are talking about two different things. 1. If you need to process messages with delays of more 15m or at specific times, it's not a good idea to use queues, independently of tool SQM, Rabbit or Amazon MQ. you should considerer another approach using a scheduled job. 2. For dead queues and policy retries RabbitMQ, for example, doesn't support your use case. https://medium.com/@kiennguyen88/rabbitmq-delay-retry-schedule-with-dead-letter-exchange-31fb25a440fc I'm not sure if that is possible SNS/SQS support, they have a maximum delay for delivery (maxDelayTarget) in seconds but it's not clear the number. You can check this out: https://docs.aws.amazon.com/sns/latest/dg/sns-message-delivery-retries.html
Pros of Amazon SQS
- Easy to use, reliable62
- Low cost40
- Simple28
- Doesn't need to maintain it14
- It is Serverless8
- Has a max message size (currently 256K)4
- Triggers Lambda3
- Easy to configure with Terraform3
- Delayed delivery upto 15 mins only3
- Delayed delivery upto 12 hours3
- JMS compliant1
- Support for retry and dead letter queue1
- D1
Pros of Dramatiq
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Cons of Amazon SQS
- Has a max message size (currently 256K)2
- Proprietary2
- Difficult to configure2
- Has a maximum 15 minutes of delayed messages only1