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ASP.NET Core vs Django: What are the differences?

ASP.NET Core and Django are two popular frameworks for web development, each with their own set of unique features and advantages. In this article, we will explore the key differences between ASP.NET Core and Django.

  1. Language: ASP.NET Core is primarily written in C#, while Django is written in Python. This difference in language affects the development process, as developers need to be familiar with the syntax and features of the respective languages.

  2. Platform: ASP.NET Core is a cross-platform framework, which means it can run on Windows, Linux, and macOS. On the other hand, Django is mainly focused on the Linux and macOS platforms, although it can also be used on Windows with additional configurations.

  3. Architecture: ASP.NET Core follows the Model-View-Controller (MVC) architectural pattern, which separates the application into three components. Django, on the other hand, follows the Model-View-Template (MVT) architectural pattern, where the template layer is responsible for rendering the user interface.

  4. Scalability: ASP.NET Core is known for its scalability, as it is built on the .NET Core runtime, which is designed for high-performance and scalability. Django, while also capable of handling high loads, may require additional configurations and optimizations for handling large-scale applications.

  5. Community and Ecosystem: ASP.NET Core has a strong community and ecosystem, with access to a wide range of libraries, tools, and resources. Django also has a vibrant community, but it may not have the same level of support and resources as ASP.NET Core.

  6. Integration: ASP.NET Core integrates well with other Microsoft technologies and frameworks, such as Azure cloud services and Entity Framework for database management. Django, on the other hand, integrates well with Python-related libraries and tools, making it a popular choice for Python developers.

In summary, ASP.NET Core and Django differ in terms of language, platform, architecture, scalability, community support, and integration capabilities. The choice between the two frameworks depends on the specific requirements and preferences of the development team.

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I am a graduate student working as a software engineer in a company. For my personal development, I want to learn web development. I have some experience in Springboot while I was in university. So I want to continue with spring-boot, but I heard about Django. I'm reaching out to the experts here to help me choose a future proof framework. Django or Spring Boot?

Thanks in Advance

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Kamrul Hasan, Don't choose dying technologies with small communities. How many startups do you think use Spring and Django? Use Google Trends to compare technologies. Study the StackOverflow developer survey and job websites to see what technologies are wanted. Few teams can afford to train you to get up to their level so be a life-long learner. Embrace the dawn of a new industry and become an expert.

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Sulaiman Sanusi
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I recommend you stick to Java Spring as you already have experience with the technology, i suggest you master this technology and then if Django seam to be very interesting to you, django is a framework you can easily pickup as python is also easy, you have to probably be able to manage the context switching between a static typed language like Java to dynamic language like python

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Gonzalo Fernández
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Hi Kamrul,

It really depends on the kind of project and whether you feel more comfortable with Java or Python. Both are excellent frameworks, with a huge community and learning material. I've been working with Spring Boot since I started coding almost and I can assure you it's the perfect combination for Java. The learning curve may be harder that Django, but once you know the basics you're good to go. I can't tell you much about Django but you must now by now that it has a great reputation with Python users. In any case I don't think you can go wrong with any of these two. My advice is, if you are already familiar with the Spring framework, give Spring Boot a try, because you're going to find out that it just makes the whole Spring experience so much easier. Let us know what you chose!

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Christoph Becker
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It depends on what you want. Spring is Java-based whereas Django is Python-based. The question rather is Java vs Python. I personally recommend Python as it's shorter and easy to learn. But Java has advantages in really big systems.

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Both are in active development and had huge community support. It really depends on you what you are comfortable with. Both are married to their respective languages. I choose Python over Java because of its simplicity and readability. To develop in java you need to write a lot of code. That's how java is. The best part I love with Django is its synchronization with Databases.

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Hi there, I'm deciding the technology to use in my project.

I need to build software that has:

  • Login
  • Register
  • Main View (access to a user account, News, General Info, Business hours, software, and parts section).
  • Account Preferences.
  • Web Shop for Parts (Support, Download Sections, Ticket System).

The most critical functionality is a WebSocket that connects between a car that sends real-time data through serial communication, and a server performs diagnosis on the car and sends the results back to the user.

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You can use NestJs with microservice architecture.where you can also use socket.io for web socket. you can use MongoDB (For real-time data) & MySQL for customer management.if you don't want to implement websocket.you can use firebase.it gives realtime database & firestore.which can handle millions of connections and scale it up.

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Mohammad-Ali A'râbi
Software Engineer at AppTec GmbH · | 5 upvotes · 202.4K views
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I would also go with NestJS. I would say Java is unnecessarily complicated and limited. And Python is not typed. TypeScript is powerful and typed and goes well with NestJS, especially using RxJS.

Django does not enforce backend-frontend separation, which probably was a good thing back in the days, but not anymore. But on the other hand enforces the project structure to you, which I don't like.

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Amit Parameshwar
NodeJS Intern at CartRabbit · | 3 upvotes · 558.4K views
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Just a simple Node.JS app with templating engine for UI can be sufficient for what you want to achieve.

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Spring boot with Spring Security[JWT], Websocket, Thymeleaf or Mustache, and styling with Bootstrap.

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Taimoor Mirza
Associate Software Engineer at Intech Process Automation · | 5 upvotes · 711.3K views
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For context, I currently use JavaScript (React) and Python (Flask) in my daily routine.

I need your help in choosing either Spring Boot or ASP.NET Core. Both frameworks seem to have mature ecosystems. I would like to hear your thoughts on the following points:

  • Difficulty level of both frameworks
  • Level of community support
  • Career prospects i.e do Spring based jobs pay more or vice versa
  • which one will be helpful if I decide to transition towards a more specialized field like data engineering.

I am asking this because it is something that I am also exploring in parallel. I know that Python and #SQL play a huge role in big data.

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Keegan Witt
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I'll preface this by saying I haven't ever done work on the Microsoft stack, so take this with a grain of salt.

Community support: Java tends to have a more active community (and much more diverse universe of new open source projects) than .Net (related to below).

Difficulty level: I'd say the Java/Spring stack is more difficult because Java developers tend to use more community projects and have to know which ones to choose in which circumstances (e.g. what logging framework to use? What database connection pooling library to use? What testing framework to use). That being said, most decisions you have to make have choices that are vastly more popular than others. My impression is that .NET guys use stuff from the standard library almost exclusively. If it's not provided there, it's a problem they never thought to solve or maybe write their own (usually the former).

Career prospects: I'll get hate for this probably, but Java/Spring has more jobs than .Net. .NET Core even more so because it's new. Most .NET jobs out there are going to be not Core, and not on anything other than Windows. LinkedIn search for jobs in United States shows 97,103 for Java and 36,448 for C#. That's not to say some individual city might not have more .NET than Java, but by and large Java is bigger. Also, .NET is not dying at the same pace as say Ruby on Rails (sorry Rails fans). I'd say it's ticking very slowly lower, maybe even holding steady. I wouldn't say you're screwed career-wise if you choose .NET. C# is also pretty similar to Java from what I've seen, and I know professionals that have transitioned to Java (though interestingly, I don't know any that did the reverse). Several companies have basically no .NET footprint, for example, Amazon, Google, Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter all have Java, but basically no C#.

Specialized fields: Neither Spring or .Net are going to be a thing in a field like data science. That's exclusively Python (some R) for the most part. The only exception being that there is some Java in Hadoop, and Scala in Spark (which runs on the JVM). But I think those are generally more for data products being created, and not data science work. I'm also under the impression this is increasingly less the case than historically. Some other specialties might make Java useful, for example Android development.

In short, Java is the COBOL of the modern enterprise (which is both a good and bad thing). I recommend it to anyone over .NET, but not for technical reasons. It's for reasons related to the questions you asked. There are actually reasons I think CLR and C# are actually better from a technical perspective than Java (unsurprisingly, since they had the benefit of hindsight). But that's not what you were asking about...

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Spring boot helps you creating microservices in hours, not days and there is a very active community around it with amazing integrations. Check one of the tutorials maybe. At least here in Germany, the job market will be better for Spring Boot as well, there are a lot more companies using Java then C#.

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Alexandru Muntean
Java Application Architect at IBM · | 4 upvotes · 520.4K views
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ASP.NET Core is pretty new while spring boot is very old but with a different name. Spring boot is just a pack of spring packages which make your life easier. I also believe that java community is way stronger than c# community... You can do your job in both frameworks and it's up to you what you choose after-all you're going to work on the project/lead it ... but whatever you choose.. after a few days of investment stick with your decision because in both frameworks you'll encounter challenges :)

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Klaus Nji
Staff Software Engineer at SailPoint Technologies · | 3 upvotes · 508.1K views

I’ll echo what others have said here with a few twists.

I have experience with both platforms including Micronaut, a relatively new kid on the block. It all depends on your near term goal. If it is to make money, sure Java jobs pay more generally because there is more hassles when dealing with the entire ecosystem. Like someone said earlier, you have to make a decision at almost every stage of the development cycle from the IDE, dependency resolution framework, logging, serialization, microservice framework etc. There is just too much choice which some may argue is an advantage while others may argue is a distraction and productivity killer. At the end of the day you can build solid systems with both frameworks.

Coming to ASP Core, yes I also agree that options are more streamlined. You’ll be using Visual Studio or Visual Studio code. For dependency management, you’ll be using Nuget. But I disagree with one of the comments above about the lack of choice. In some aspects .NET actually has more choice believe it or not for example choice of ORM. There is entity framework, nhibernate, dapper etc. For J2ee, hibernate reigns supreme although you have JPA. For dependency injection you have many IoC containers like unity, castle Windsor in .NET while you have Guice and maybe a Spring based implementation.

Also C# is technically a better language that Java. That’s not questionable as has also been stated above. Many things are done right obviously by avoiding some of the mistakes made in the underlying architecture surrounding the Java programming language. That’s why Microsoft created c# to begin with. The language is a lot cleaner and allows you to focus on learning core principles and nail down fundamental OO with emphasis on good design. I find too many distractions in the Java ecosystem which takes me away from understanding the core problem I am trying to solve.

So as you can this is not an easy decision and as someone has stated there’s work to do regardless of what technology choice you make.

If your sole purpose is to make a higher base salary, sure pick Spring Boot. If you want to quickly deliver something and iterate, pick ASP Core. I personally use c# for all private projects and proving concepts even though my employer is a Java shop. It allows me to stay focused on solving the problem and not constantly wrestle with issues such as Gradle dependency resolution glitches in IntelliJ.

Given that you can transfer skills from .NET to J2ee I recommend guys to pick up ASP get a couple of services to get a feel web development as you can still get jobs in Java even with that experience. Companies don’t care these days. In fact a lot of companies are going to Go so there’s that too.

Depends on your immediate term goal.

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Muhammad Shaheer khan
Freelancer at Freelancer.com · | 9 upvotes · 592K views
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Currently, I am a university student, and it is my second last semester with a major in Computer science. I want to start my career in full-stack web development. I know Python with Django + PHP with Laravel, and my focus is on learning MERN stack. I am a little bit confused as to which technology I should choose: Django or Magento or MERN stack.

#newbie

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I suggest you to go with MERN Stack (Mongo,express,react,Node). As you know python and django which is a plus point because you can use python and node as your backend and for front-end use react(easy to learn) and database of your choice.(Mongo or SQL)

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GO For MERN Stack... brother

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As a medium level .Net programmer trying to implementing a website, I decided to go through the Asp.Net Core. I found some tutorials on the web and started learning; however, I faced a problem. Even though I have been working with .Net and C# (mostly with unity game engine, which led to a quite amazing mobile game, published on a Persian app store) for two years or even more, by start learning Asp.Net Core, I found out that I do not know .Net as much as I expected. There were some things I should have learned before.

I searched for other frameworks, and Django was a popular one. Besides, I have planned to learn Python for machine learning. The website I want to make (with a small team) is nearly similar to Khan Academy. (We are going to use React for front-end)

So, What should I do? Continue working on .Net core with its amazing new features, or start getting into the Python and Django?

Your advice accompanied by reasons will be greatly appreciated!

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Having worked with many J2EE database applications in the past, I now turn to Django if I can and the project allows it as it is so quick to get up and running. It has a logical workflow and organized structure and it comes with a high level of security (if you import the appropriate backends). If you are wanting to incorporate python-based data processing (or cython), it is relatively easy to write a backend plugin. I have found it more stable with updates than other frameworks (particularly compared to the NPM world such as React which so often descends into dependency hell when a version of something is updated). One hassle worth mentioning is the database migrations support which can sometimes mess up during development but there are workarounds. With a React frontend, you would be using the Django REST Framework (https://www.django-rest-framework.org/) so you may find that you have to overwrite a lot of the methods here as the defaults are fairly basic CRUD operations which don't really support nested relationships very well. I don't have any experience with .Net so I can't give a comparison except of course, the obvious one, portability, as Python is platform-independent. PS, I would recommend Vue over React also for a well organized front-end.

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You can get done what you want with just about any modern framework and language.

Django is fast and easy to learn but as your website grows you will need more and more community apps whose release cycles do not keep up with Django. Unless you are willing to work on the community apps, Django may not be for you.

Compare the active community sizes of Django apps to Ruby on Rails apps and you'll see very active communities with Ruby on Rails and small Django communities. Don't switch to Ruby on Rails though--it is a small, dying community of enthusiasts.

ASP.NET Core is a great backend framework, the community is large and you can always find answers; however, according to the StackOverflow developer survey, it is not desirable for the majority of programmers. I still use it though because my background evolved from C to C++ and then to C#. I also like the Microsoft world.

I've programmed a lot using Angular and some React but am switching to Vue.js which is much easier to learn and faster to code in. Be sure to use TypeScript with Vue.js. Just watch the video on the Vue home page to see how fast he can code using Vue.

But do you really want to code a website from scratch? If not, try WordPress Elementor. It may save you tons of time.

For mobile, use Google Flutter. In my 35 years of professional programming I've never seen anything more elegant, easy to learn, well documented and beautiful than Flutter. From one a single base you can target both Android and IOS and soon Web. You can also develop in Android Studio which means your screen real estate requirements are small so you don't need two monitors.

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I find myself in the opposite boat, I have made commercial websites with Django and now find myself learning ASP.NET. My recommendation comes with the following caveats... regardless of direction the learning will happen. Django is a very battery included framework, so the initial process will be painless, I found that documentation and support for more advanced use cases to be fairly easy to get support.

I personally found Django pretty nice to work with.

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I recommend you use a framework such as Firebase instead of implementing your own backend server for the website.

I found that Firebase enables me to build websites more quickly since it takes care of the backend for me so most of my development time is building the front-end (using React in your case).

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Go with the ASP.NET Core. It is a very mature technology now and there are tons of documentation, tutorials and support you can find online. Also ASP.NET Core Web API plays quite well with the React. It is easy to implement the entire back-end in .NET Core (APIs, authentication, database access layer...) and if you need any third party package, I'm pretty sure you will find and implement in a form of a NuGet package. Who knows, maybe one day you'll need to create a mobile app and with a fully functional Web API, it would be more-less easy task to build a mobile app on top of it.

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Ilya Lebedev
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If you're going to learn Python anyway, Django project will boost your learning process. Since you're going to use React , you only neet to create REST API. Basic API can be created with Django rather easy.

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I have learned both Python and JavaScript. I also tried my hand at Django. But i found it difficult to work with Django, on frontend its Jinja format is very confusing and limited. I have not tried Node.js yet and unsure which tool to go ahead with. I want an internship as soon as possible so please answer keeping that in mind.

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If you are currently not working my first suggestion is to study both the frameworks and get a good grasp of those. If you didn't get confident with Django in the first place you should reconsider going back and study more. Get a video course with some code-along and produce some simple application you can showcase on your interviews. If you already took a course take a different one. Another trainer could be more effective and you could experience something new with different excercises. There are lots of both free and paid courses out there. When you will get confident with Django get your feet wet with Node.js because it surely worth it. Node is very different from Django from some perspective, it looks more like an asynchronous version of Flask to me. Be sure to have a good knowledge of ES6 first, because it will be really useful to understand the Node best practices. Study as much as you can now if you are not working. It will supercharge you for the future...

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Max Musing
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From my experience of the early startup world, a majority of companies these days use Node.js. Python and Go are the next biggest languages, but significantly smaller than Node.

However, if you're having trouble with the front end aspect of Django, using Node probably won't make that easier for you. You'll have a lot more options between front end frameworks (React, Vue.js, Angular 2) , but they'll definitely take more time to learn than Django's templating system.

Think about whether you want to focus on front end or back end for now, and make a decision from there.

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I would suggest to go with js, it's the craze now when you enter into the stack it has variety of options and tools that you can adopt , and more than that the demand for js engineers is exponentially increasing and js can do magic in any type of application or architecture.

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Yousuf Jawwad
Principal Software Architect at Breu Inc. · | 4 upvotes · 461.5K views
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Jinja is a template rendering engine and you will encounter some sort of template rendering engine in each language. Jinja is a pretty standard tool and almost every language has some sort of Jinja equivalent. Ruby has Liquid, Node has Nunjucks, Java has Jinjava, Go's default templating engine is easy to pick up if you know Jinja, Helm charts are easier to pick if know Jinja . So learning Jinja is a good thing.

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George Krachtopoulos
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I had the same question myself a few months ago. I finally chose Node.js, and it was one of the best options I did back then. From when I started programming, I always believed that Python was for me the best language, secure and stable. However, it is not flexible for web development, there are more packages & libraries that are built and work only with JavaScript / TypeScript, and the community, resources & support is much bigger. I was also fascinated by the Django ORM, which I still am, & the admin interface. But those are things, that can be replaces by other tools, such as TypeORM, and the admin interface was not needed at all finally for my case. I know understand that Python is not the language that I should use everywhere and every time, but I can say that it is really good for algorithms, computer science, maths, statistics, analytics & AI. To be honest, I chose TypeScript (TS) with Node.js & Express, because it has auto-completion and "strict" code checking. I hope this helps you, and let you take a look at various aspects of choosing a programming language to work with.

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If you already know some django stuff you should keep that learning path. And for the job if you really want an internship you should learn to make rest APIs using django or nodejs, and a front end that consumes those APIs using some framework

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Actually, you could get very good solution with implementing BE and admin panel with Django and FE with React.js or Vue.js. it will provide you a pretty flexible and powerful environment.

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I have a mission to make a web application for my organization (engineering consultant). With the following bullet points that the new web app has to cover, what is the right tool?

  1. It should be able to display employee data and project data. For example, when searching the name of Mr. Peter Parker, I should be able to click on the name to see his personal profile and also a list of construction projects he is or was a part of. Also, if I click on a project name, say Project ABC building, it should show me the detail of this project (who is the client, who works on this project, where, start-finish dates, etc.)

  2. It should be able to sync with the database from Microsoft Access.

(optional) 3. The user of this web app should be able to propose a rotation of role (Ex. Boss might want Mr. Peter Paker to work in another project next month, he can just drag Peter into XYZ Building.)

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Mohammad Hossein Amri
Chief Technology Officer at Planally · | 8 upvotes · 249.5K views
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you can achieve what you want with both. but for me, the obvious choice is Aspnet core. the main reason is being the easiness of writing code in a multi-threading manner & ORM. the Django ORM is ugly as hell that I don't even want to look into its code. I did a couple of projects with Django and I wish I never did it. the amount of nuances was so much that after we delivered the projects I rejected any new Django project. I know people still using that and getting projects done but it's not a clever choice when there are easier choices out there.

moreover, after the latest upgrade, the Aspnet core 3 is the fastest and best of framework in 2020.

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George Krachtopoulos
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I always use Django on my projects. It is really easy and friendly fro the developer. It also comes with an inbuilt admin panel where you can manage all your models (tables), Django has a great authentication and authorization system, and it provides a great and powerful URL dispatcher, suitable for your needs. Furthermore, you can use a called django-pyodbc that is coded specifically for Microsoft SQL Server, and the SQL dialects for SQL Server ("T-SQL") and Access ("Access SQL"). However, I would not recommend using an Access DataBase with any web application's backend. Of course, it depends if you explicitly have Microsoft as your main tech stack.

Hope I helped you, and good luck with your project!

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Paresh Kadam
Software Developer at Tavisca · | 4 upvotes · 248.9K views
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Would recommend Asp.net core with angular, It would integrate fine. I have experienced Django its good for fast, short span projects. But when it comes to speed, maintainability Asp .net is a winner. Though you can use angular/react in both frameworks. Your application consists of crud operations so you can have a choice based upon availability of resource, maintenance and time

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Short answer, ASP.NET because of #2. I think the Microsoft stack, now and in the future will be easier to sync with Microsoft Access. I haven't done extensive research but usually Microsoft office apps work well with the MSFT stack. BUT I personally prefer Django.

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Which is better to learn first as a beginner? Is it true that django is going out of the trend?

I was thinking to learn nodejs but after some thoughts I moved to django and learned most of the basics. Should I learn django more deeply or else drop the django learning and start learning nodejs from scratch?

Please help.

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Christopher Wray
Web Developer at Soltech LLC · | 12 upvotes · 228.6K views
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Hey, I have found Laravel to be a great first web framework for me. Mainly, I would look at what you want to build, and go with the framework that will help you get there. It is not about learning a certain framework, but about building apps that help people solve problems. So you should start with a small project that helps people, and find a framework that can help you build that.

I am sure that others will disagree, but this is my opinion.

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Don't by trendy, try to learn the basics and learn for future. For beginner Go is a great start, they're having a great documentation. Once you get Go, backend development wouldn't be a problem. I'll suggest you not to use and framework or library at the beginning. Do things from scratch, it may sounds inefficient, but hey! you'll learn more than others. Afterwards you'll be also able to do application development in Go.

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I am a front-end guy and in the last month I've been trynig to be learn backend in python. I think python is a great language to but when i start to learn django I didn't like it because everythong is already done for you, you dont need to do much make it works and I like coding thing that take me time. I've been thinking about switching to another programing language or just learn Node js and stick with it. I need to know if django is that easy.

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Klaus Nji
Staff Software Engineer at SailPoint Technologies · | 7 upvotes · 103.5K views
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I would stick with Node. Both are great frameworks but it appears Node edges over Django on performance and other aspects such as the underlying architecture. Node is also an event driven platform which comes with the added benefit of easily crafting asynchronous code.

I do not see the benefit of learning a new language when your current skill set can get the job done.

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Hi, So I would give JavaScript (and then Node.js) a chance. Using only 1 language to create BackEnd and FrontEnd is something really powerful. Also, I did not enjoy Django that much, as you mention, it kinda feel like too structured/rigit to me...

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George Krachtopoulos
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I would like to build a medium to large scale app, that has real-time operations and a good authentication system and a secure and fast API. Should I use Django with React only? Or maybe use Django for the API, Node.js for real-time operations and React for the frontend? Any suggestions? Which database should I use with those technologies? Should I use both MySQL / PostgreSQL and MongoDB together? Should I use only MongoDB or MySQL / PostgreSQL? Or is it better to go with both MySQL and PostgreSQL at the same time? Should I use also GraphQL?

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Max Saykov
Full-stack developer at Asteria · | 9 upvotes · 69K views
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Hey, George

TL;DR PostgreSQL + Django + React.js.

A few notes about Django: * Django includes own ORM which is able to work with SQL databases. In this case, you're able to use any SQL storage like a PostgreSQL / MySQL / etc., but you can't use MongoDB. * Django is synchronous web-framework. If you want to use asynchronous operations in the database, you have to choose another tool (aiohttp for Python or fastify.js for Node.js). * Django is stable. You don't need to worry about data consistency, etc. * Django-Rest-Framework is a great library for handling REST API requests. * django-channels is a library for handling WebSocket connections. * GraphQL is a great thing, but it requires additional knowledge for using it. (especially, performance knowledge).

A few notes about Node.js: * You have to choose Node.js web-framework. Node.js includes a lot of web-frameworks like a express.js, hapi.js, fastify.js, etc. * Node.js applications are asynchronous. It can give you additional performance. * You have to know about data consistency inside your own application. * You're able to use MongoDB or any SQL database because npm includes a lot of libraries that can work with databases. * You're able to use GraphQL because Node.js is a better choice for GraphQL. * You don't need to use additional libraries for handling REST and WebSocket connections.

So, my conclusion is using Django + PostgreSQL + React.js. For this stack, you can get more stability. If you need to get more performance, you have to think about some asynchronous languages (like a Node.js).

Take a look at Flask + SQLAlchemy + PostgreSQL + React.js. SQLAlchemy is a better ORM than Django-ORM.

I hope, it's useful for you :)

Best regards, Max

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Max Musing
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Node.js is a great option for real-time applications, especially in conjunction with Socket.IO.

In terms of databases, I'd go with PostgreSQL. MongoDB has its benefits (schema-less, sharding, map-reduce), but for most CRUD-based apps, it makes sense to store the bulk of your data in a relational database (of which PostgreSQL is the best IMO). You can throw in MongoDB if you have a specific need for it. There's certainly no need to use both MySQL and PostgreSQL.

As for GraphQL, it can be nice to work with since you don't need to predefine specific data endpoints on your backend, instead shifting the power to your frontend in requesting the data it needs. It's also useful for public APIs, when you don't know what data users want (see Github's API). It can be useful at the early stage when you're prototyping and want to be able to fetch data quickly, but certainly isn't necessary.

At BaseDash we use Node.js, ExpressJS, Socket.IO, PostgreSQL, and Sequelize to fit our use case of database management and real-time operations.

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I have used both the tools . Both of them are super awesome , very reliable and their learning curve is also super easy. But, the reason I choose Ruby on Rails over Django is the fact that the dependency injection is super easy in Rails than Django. What I mean is the fact that, Django requires a lot of import statement to do a lot of work, which remembering is not so easy and even after that you may need to write a lot of code. But Ruby on Rails uses gem to add addition feature or dependency in the project. Which requires just copying the gem statement from github and pasting it in the Gemfile, then running bundle install(these days just bundle works super fine). And there you are with the new feature in your app. You can see this with the example of Authentication, where in Django you require several steps like adding class based views and many more, but in rails it's just as easy as installing the 'devise' gem . And if you want to make it beautiful use bootstrap_template gem to make it look prettier. Now with Rails 6 , Rails is a total developer's fervent friend because it has come up with features like Action Mail and Action Text.

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i find python quite resourceful. given the bulk of libraries that python has and the trends of the tech i find django which runs on python to be the framework of choice to the upcoming web services and application. Laravel on the other hand which is powered by PHP is also quite resourceful and great for startups and common web applications.

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Since I came from python I had two choices: #django or #flask. It felt like it was a better idea to go for #django considering I was building a blogging platform, this is kind of what #django was made for. On the other hand, #rails seems to be a fantastic framework to get things done. Although I do not regret any of my time spent on developing with #django I want to give #rails a try some day in the future for the sake of curiosity.

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Ing. Alvaro Rodríguez Scelza
Software Systems Engineer at Ripio · | 9 upvotes · 466.4K views

Decided to change all my stack to microsoft technologies for they behave just great together. It is very easy to set up and deploy projects using visual studio and azure. Visual studio is also an amazing IDE, if not the best, when used for C#, it allows you to work in every aspect of your software.

Visual studio templates for ASP.NET MVC are the best I've found compared to django, rails, laravel, and others.

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Alexander Krylkov
Sofrware Architect at Air Astana · | 2 upvotes · 203.6K views

Comparing to ASP.NET Core MVC or ASP.NET Core Web API Simplify.Web allows you to easily build your web-site or REST API without any additional/complicated setup, covering cases like localization by default. It's projects structure very lightweight, just a minimum amount of what you need to setup ASP.NET Core request pipeline.

It is build on top of Simplify.DI IOC container abstraction, no dependency on Microsoft.Extensions.DependencyInjection and it's syntax. You can easily switch between DryIoc, SimpleInjector, CastleWindsor etc.

Any internal module of Simplify.Web can be easily replaced on extended by your custom module, covering your custom cases.

For HTML pages generation Simplify.Templates can be used allowing you to use just regular plain HTML without additional setup.

Can be easily integrated with Simplify.WindowsServices converting your web application not just to web-application, but a standalone windows service which can also do some background jobs via Simplify.WindowsServices.

And it is open source, of course :)

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There has been a lot of buzz around having PostgreSQL for ASP.NET Core 3.1 web apps. But Configuring Identity Server 4 with PostgreSQL is a real challenge. I've made a simple video to configure the ASP.NET Core 3.1 based Web application that uses AngualrJS as front end with Single Page App capabilities with Identity Server 4 talking to the PostgreSQL database. Check out this Video tutorial on how to do that in detail http://bit.ly/2EkotL5 You can access the entire code here on github http://bit.ly/35okpFj

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    NuGet
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    Visual Studio
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    Azure Integration
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  • 31
    Signalr
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    Razor Pages
  • 30
    Dependency Injection
  • 26
    JetBrains Rider
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  • 24
    Tooling
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    One stop shop
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    MVVM
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    Fantastic and caring community
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    Add a pro
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  • 3
    Free
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    WASI/WAGI
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    Easy tooling to deploy on container
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    Beautiful code
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    Elegant
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    Free
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    Great packages
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    Python
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    The Django community
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    King of backend world
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    Great MVC and templating engine
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    Batteries included
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    Mvt
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    Very quick to get something up and running
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    Easy to develop end to end AI Models
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    Cross-Platform
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    Python community
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    Many libraries
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    Easy
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    Map
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    Easy to change database manager
  • 4
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    Full-Text Search
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    Just the right level of abstraction
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    Scaffold
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    Great default admin panel
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    Long polling is difficult to implement
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    URL dispatcher ignores HTTP method
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    Internal subcomponents coupling
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    Not nodejs
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    Configuration hell
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    Admin
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    Not as clean and nice documentation like Laravel
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    Python
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A free and open-source web framework, and higher performance than ASP.NET, developed by Microsoft and the community. It is a modular framework that runs on both the full .NET Framework, on Windows, and the cross-platform .NET Core.

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Django is a high-level Python Web framework that encourages rapid development and clean, pragmatic design.

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