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What is Kafka? Distributed, fault tolerant, high throughput pub-sub messaging system. Kafka is a distributed, partitioned, replicated commit log service. It provides the functionality of a messaging system, but with a unique design.

What is XMPP? An open XML technology for real-time communication. It is a set of open technologies for instant messaging, presence, multi-party chat, voice and video calls, collaboration, lightweight middleware, content syndication, and generalized routing of XML data.

Kafka and XMPP are primarily classified as "Message Queue" and "Container" tools respectively.

Kafka is an open source tool with 13.1K GitHub stars and 6.99K GitHub forks. Here's a link to Kafka's open source repository on GitHub.

Uber Technologies, Spotify, and Slack are some of the popular companies that use Kafka, whereas XMPP is used by Mendix, Vidyo.io, and Relayo. Kafka has a broader approval, being mentioned in 691 company stacks & 2399 developers stacks; compared to XMPP, which is listed in 7 company stacks and 5 developer stacks.

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What is Kafka?

Kafka is a distributed, partitioned, replicated commit log service. It provides the functionality of a messaging system, but with a unique design.

What is XMPP?

It is a set of open technologies for instant messaging, presence, multi-party chat, voice and video calls, collaboration, lightweight middleware, content syndication, and generalized routing of XML data.
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      ActiveMQ
      Apache ActiveMQ is fast, supports many Cross Language Clients and Protocols, comes with easy to use Enterprise Integration Patterns and many advanced features while fully supporting JMS 1.1 and J2EE 1.4. Apache ActiveMQ is released under the Apache 2.0 License.
      RabbitMQ
      RabbitMQ gives your applications a common platform to send and receive messages, and your messages a safe place to live until received.
      Amazon Kinesis
      Amazon Kinesis can collect and process hundreds of gigabytes of data per second from hundreds of thousands of sources, allowing you to easily write applications that process information in real-time, from sources such as web site click-streams, marketing and financial information, manufacturing instrumentation and social media, and operational logs and metering data.
      Apache Spark
      Spark is a fast and general processing engine compatible with Hadoop data. It can run in Hadoop clusters through YARN or Spark's standalone mode, and it can process data in HDFS, HBase, Cassandra, Hive, and any Hadoop InputFormat. It is designed to perform both batch processing (similar to MapReduce) and new workloads like streaming, interactive queries, and machine learning.
      Akka
      Akka is a toolkit and runtime for building highly concurrent, distributed, and resilient message-driven applications on the JVM.
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      Decisions about Kafka and XMPP
      Adam Rabinovitch
      Adam Rabinovitch
      Global Technical Recruiting Lead & Engineering Evangelist at Beamery | 3 upvotes 156.9K views
      atBeameryBeamery
      Kafka
      Kafka
      Redis
      Redis
      Elasticsearch
      Elasticsearch
      MongoDB
      MongoDB
      RabbitMQ
      RabbitMQ
      Go
      Go
      Node.js
      Node.js
      Kubernetes
      Kubernetes
      #Microservices

      Beamery runs a #microservices architecture in the backend on top of Google Cloud with Kubernetes There are a 100+ different microservice split between Node.js and Go . Data flows between the microservices over REST and gRPC and passes through Kafka RabbitMQ as a message bus. Beamery stores data in MongoDB with near-realtime replication to Elasticsearch . In addition, Beamery uses Redis for various memory-optimized tasks.

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      Conor Myhrvold
      Conor Myhrvold
      Tech Brand Mgr, Office of CTO at Uber | 4 upvotes 100.5K views
      atUber TechnologiesUber Technologies
      Kafka Manager
      Kafka Manager
      Kafka
      Kafka
      GitHub
      GitHub
      Apache Spark
      Apache Spark
      Hadoop
      Hadoop

      Why we built Marmaray, an open source generic data ingestion and dispersal framework and library for Apache Hadoop :

      Built and designed by our Hadoop Platform team, Marmaray is a plug-in-based framework built on top of the Hadoop ecosystem. Users can add support to ingest data from any source and disperse to any sink leveraging the use of Apache Spark . The name, Marmaray, comes from a tunnel in Turkey connecting Europe and Asia. Similarly, we envisioned Marmaray within Uber as a pipeline connecting data from any source to any sink depending on customer preference:

      https://eng.uber.com/marmaray-hadoop-ingestion-open-source/

      (Direct GitHub repo: https://github.com/uber/marmaray Kafka Kafka Manager )

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      Roman Bulgakov
      Roman Bulgakov
      Senior Back-End Developer, Software Architect at Chemondis GmbH | 3 upvotes 10.5K views
      Kafka
      Kafka

      I use Kafka because it has almost infinite scaleability in terms of processing events (could be scaled to process hundreds of thousands of events), great monitoring (all sorts of metrics are exposed via JMX).

      Downsides of using Kafka are: - you have to deal with Zookeeper - you have to implement advanced routing yourself (compared to RabbitMQ it has no advanced routing)

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      RabbitMQ
      RabbitMQ
      Kafka
      Kafka

      The question for which Message Queue to use mentioned "availability, distributed, scalability, and monitoring". I don't think that this excludes many options already. I does not sound like you would take advantage of Kafka's strengths (replayability, based on an even sourcing architecture). You could pick one of the AMQP options.

      I would recommend the RabbitMQ message broker, which not only implements the AMQP standard 0.9.1 (it can support 1.x or other protocols as well) but has also several very useful extensions built in. It ticks the boxes you mentioned and on top you will get a very flexible system, that allows you to build the architecture, pick the options and trade-offs that suite your case best.

      For more information about RabbitMQ, please have a look at the linked markdown I assembled. The second half explains many configuration options. It also contains links to managed hosting and to libraries (though it is missing Python's - which should be Puka, I assume).

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      Fr茅d茅ric MARAND
      Fr茅d茅ric MARAND
      Core Developer at OSInet | 2 upvotes 88.6K views
      atOSInetOSInet
      RabbitMQ
      RabbitMQ
      Beanstalkd
      Beanstalkd
      Kafka
      Kafka

      I used Kafka originally because it was mandated as part of the top-level IT requirements at a Fortune 500 client. What I found was that it was orders of magnitude more complex ...and powerful than my daily Beanstalkd , and far more flexible, resilient, and manageable than RabbitMQ.

      So for any case where utmost flexibility and resilience are part of the deal, I would use Kafka again. But due to the complexities involved, for any time where this level of scalability is not required, I would probably just use Beanstalkd for its simplicity.

      I tend to find RabbitMQ to be in an uncomfortable middle place between these two extremities.

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      Pinterest uses KafkaKafka

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      Front-end messages are logged to Kafka by our API and application servers. We have batch processing (on the middle-left) and real-time processing (on the middle-right) pipelines to process the experiment data. For batch processing, after daily raw log get to s3, we start our nightly experiment workflow to figure out experiment users groups and experiment metrics. We use our in-house workflow management system Pinball to manage the dependencies of all these MapReduce jobs.

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      Coolfront Technologies uses KafkaKafka

      Building out real-time streaming server to present data insights to Coolfront Mobile customers and internal sales and marketing teams.

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      ShareThis uses KafkaKafka

      We are using Kafka as a message queue to process our widget logs.

      Avatar of Christopher Davison
      Christopher Davison uses KafkaKafka

      Used for communications and triggering jobs across ETL systems

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      theskyinflames uses KafkaKafka

      Used as a integration middleware by messaging interchanging.

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