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Bazel vs npm: What are the differences?

What is Bazel? Correct, reproducible, fast builds for everyone. Bazel is a build tool that builds code quickly and reliably. It is used to build the majority of Google's software, and thus it has been designed to handle build problems present in Google's development environment.

What is npm? The package manager for JavaScript. npm is the command-line interface to the npm ecosystem. It is battle-tested, surprisingly flexible, and used by hundreds of thousands of JavaScript developers every day.

Bazel can be classified as a tool in the "Java Build Tools" category, while npm is grouped under "Front End Package Manager".

"Fast" is the top reason why over 18 developers like Bazel, while over 642 developers mention "Best package management system for javascript" as the leading cause for choosing npm.

Bazel and npm are both open source tools. It seems that npm with 17.2K GitHub stars and 3.17K forks on GitHub has more adoption than Bazel with 12.2K GitHub stars and 2K GitHub forks.

Coursera, 9GAG, and Intuit are some of the popular companies that use npm, whereas Bazel is used by Google, Asana, and Square. npm has a broader approval, being mentioned in 2605 company stacks & 2587 developers stacks; compared to Bazel, which is listed in 11 company stacks and 7 developer stacks.

What is Bazel?

Bazel is a build tool that builds code quickly and reliably. It is used to build the majority of Google's software, and thus it has been designed to handle build problems present in Google's development environment.

What is npm?

npm is the command-line interface to the npm ecosystem. It is battle-tested, surprisingly flexible, and used by hundreds of thousands of JavaScript developers every day.
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What are some alternatives to Bazel and npm?
Pants
Pants is a build system for Java, Scala and Python. It works particularly well for a source code repository that contains many distinct projects.
Webpack
A bundler for javascript and friends. Packs many modules into a few bundled assets. Code Splitting allows to load parts for the application on demand. Through "loaders" modules can be CommonJs, AMD, ES6 modules, CSS, Images, JSON, Coffeescript, LESS, ... and your custom stuff.
Buck
Buck encourages the creation of small, reusable modules consisting of code and resources, and supports a variety of languages on many platforms.
Ansible
Ansible is an IT automation tool. It can configure systems, deploy software, and orchestrate more advanced IT tasks such as continuous deployments or zero downtime rolling updates. Ansible’s goals are foremost those of simplicity and maximum ease of use.
CMake
It is used to control the software compilation process using simple platform and compiler independent configuration files, and generate native makefiles and workspaces that can be used in the compiler environment of the user's choice.
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Decisions about Bazel and npm
Tim Abbott
Tim Abbott
Founder at Zulip · | 3 upvotes · 7.1K views
atZulipZulip
Node.js
Node.js
npm
npm
Yarn
Yarn

I have mixed feelings on the Yarn/npm/Node.js ecosystem. We use it for Zulip, because you basically have to in order to have a modern JavaScript toolchain. And I like that Yarn lets us pin dependency versions out of the box for predictability in our production releases; we have to do significant work for the Python version of this feature.

But one also deals with broken third-party dependencies uploaded to npm way too often (even ignoring the malicious packages issues that have gotten a lot of press of late). And one mostly has to use nvm in order to pin a specific version of node itself in a maintainable way, and nvm is a mess.

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Russel Werner
Russel Werner
Lead Engineer at StackShare · | 5 upvotes · 6.3K views
atStackShareStackShare
npm
npm
Yarn
Yarn

We use Yarn because at the time we decided to adopt it, npm had some missing features and issues. We like the speed and determinism provided by Yarn. We could probably use npm at this point, but we have no real reason to switch from Yarn. If you have a convincing argument to switch from npm to Yarn please leave a comment on this decision!

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Johnny Bell
Johnny Bell
Senior Software Engineer at StackShare · | 17 upvotes · 71.8K views
ESLint
ESLint
Prettier
Prettier
Babel
Babel
npm
npm
Yarn
Yarn
Node.js
Node.js
Webpack
Webpack
#ES5
#ES6

So when starting a new project you generally have your go to tools to get your site up and running locally, and some scripts to build out a production version of your site. Create React App is great for that, however for my projects I feel as though there is to much bloat in Create React App and if I use it, then I'm tied to React, which I love but if I want to switch it up to Vue or something I want that flexibility.

So to start everything up and running I clone my personal Webpack boilerplate - This is still in Webpack 3, and does need some updating but gets the job done for now. So given the name of the repo you may have guessed that yes I am using Webpack as my bundler I use Webpack because it is so powerful, and even though it has a steep learning curve once you get it, its amazing.

The next thing I do is make sure my machine has Node.js configured and the right version installed then run Yarn. I decided to use Yarn because when I was building out this project npm had some shortcomings such as no .lock file. I could probably move from Yarn to npm but I don't really see any point really.

I use Babel to transpile all of my #ES6 to #ES5 so the browser can read it, I love Babel and to be honest haven't looked up any other transpilers because Babel is amazing.

Finally when developing I have Prettier setup to make sure all my code is clean and uniform across all my JS files, and ESLint to make sure I catch any errors or code that could be optimized.

I'm really happy with this stack for my local env setup, and I'll probably stick with it for a while.

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Mark Nelissen
Mark Nelissen
CTO at Gemsotec bvba · | 4 upvotes · 2.9K views
Yarn
Yarn
TypeScript
TypeScript
React
React
npm
npm

I use npm because I also mainly use React and TypeScript. Since several typings (from DefinitelyTyped) depend on the React typings, Yarn tends to mess up which leads to duplicate libraries present (different versions of the same type definition), which hinders the Typescript compiler. Npm always resolves to a single version per transitive dependency. At least that's my experience with both.

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Jason Barry
Jason Barry
Cofounder at FeaturePeek · | 4 upvotes · 9K views
atFeaturePeekFeaturePeek
npm
npm
Yarn
Yarn
Babel
Babel
Sublime Text
Sublime Text
JavaScript
JavaScript
React
React
TypeScript
TypeScript
Flow (JS)
Flow (JS)
#Frontend

I think our #Frontend stack is pretty standard – but we have taken some deviations from a typical modern stack:

  • Flow (JS) instead of TypeScript. Flow was an easy choice 2+ years ago, as both flow and React were (and still are) maintained by Facebook. Today, it seems that the JavaScript community has settled on TypeScript as the winner. For new projects, I'd choose TS, but I don't see the point in migrating an existing project from flowtype to TS, when the end result will be roughly the same. Sure, memory usage is a bit high, and every now and then I have to kill some zombie processes, but our text editors (Sublime Text), CI scripts, and Babel are already set up to take advantage of the type safety that flow offers. When/if the React team writes React itself in TS, then I'll take a closer look – until then, flow works for us.

  • Yarn instead of npm. When yarn debuted, we never looked back. Now npm has pretty much caught up with speed and lockfiles, but yarn gives me confidence that my dependency installs are deterministic. Really interested in the plug-n-play (PnP) feature that removes the need for a node_modules folder, but haven't implemented this yet.

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Yarn
Yarn
npm
npm
Node.js
Node.js

From a StackShare Community member: “I’m a freelance web developer (I mostly use Node.js) and for future projects I’m debating between npm or Yarn as my default package manager. I’m a minimalist so I hate installing software if I don’t need to- in this case that would be Yarn. For those who made the switch from npm to Yarn, what benefits have you noticed? For those who stuck with npm, are you happy you with it?"

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How developers use Bazel and npm
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lispur uses npmnpm

Utilize npm private module to package shared library for different React / React Native clients. Shareable code goes here. Basically deliver Redux Store with Firebase integration and business logic in a library. Each React app utilizes this while delivering a device/target specific UI.

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Refractal uses npmnpm

If you're using Node or Gulp, you can't help but use NPM in some form or another. Fortunately that's never a bad thing with the massive package repository and glowing ecosystem making it a breeze to work with.

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Oomba uses npmnpm

We manages all of our packages, including Angular JS through npm. It is a very quick way of downloading / installing packages into your project.

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Thibault Maekelbergh uses npmnpm

Module is published as bpost on the npm registry. Tasks for the module are also defined as npm run tasks with commit hooks for git

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Andrew Gatenby uses npmnpm

It's the front-end version of Composer, so is pretty essential to pull in packages that can be tracked and kept up to date.

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