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Decision at Stream about Go, Stream, Python, Yarn, Babel, Node.js, ES6, JavaScript, Languages, FrameworksFullStack

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DeveloperEvangelist at Stream ·

Winds 2.0 is an open source Podcast/RSS reader developed by Stream with a core goal to enable a wide range of developers to contribute.

We chose JavaScript because nearly every developer knows or can, at the very least, read JavaScript. With ES6 and Node.js v10.x.x, it’s become a very capable language. Async/Await is powerful and easy to use (Async/Await vs Promises). Babel allows us to experiment with next-generation JavaScript (features that are not in the official JavaScript spec yet). Yarn allows us to consistently install packages quickly (and is filled with tons of new tricks)

We’re using JavaScript for everything – both front and backend. Most of our team is experienced with Go and Python, so Node was not an obvious choice for this app.

Sure... there will be haters who refuse to acknowledge that there is anything remotely positive about JavaScript (there are even rants on Hacker News about Node.js); however, without writing completely in JavaScript, we would not have seen the results we did.

#FrameworksFullStack #Languages

29 upvotes·62.8K views

Decision about ESLint, Prettier, Babel, npm, Yarn, Node.js, Webpack, ES5, ES6

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Sr. Software Engineer at StackShare ·

So when starting a new project you generally have your go to tools to get your site up and running locally, and some scripts to build out a production version of your site. Create React App is great for that, however for my projects I feel as though there is to much bloat in Create React App and if I use it, then I'm tied to React, which I love but if I want to switch it up to Vue or something I want that flexibility.

So to start everything up and running I clone my personal Webpack boilerplate - This is still in Webpack 3, and does need some updating but gets the job done for now. So given the name of the repo you may have guessed that yes I am using Webpack as my bundler I use Webpack because it is so powerful, and even though it has a steep learning curve once you get it, its amazing.

The next thing I do is make sure my machine has Node.js configured and the right version installed then run Yarn. I decided to use Yarn because when I was building out this project npm had some shortcomings such as no .lock file. I could probably move from Yarn to npm but I don't really see any point really.

I use Babel to transpile all of my #ES6 to #ES5 so the browser can read it, I love Babel and to be honest haven't looked up any other transpilers because Babel is amazing.

Finally when developing I have Prettier setup to make sure all my code is clean and uniform across all my JS files, and ESLint to make sure I catch any errors or code that could be optimized.

I'm really happy with this stack for my local env setup, and I'll probably stick with it for a while.

17 upvotes·3 comments·34.1K views

Decision about Yarn, npm, PackageManagers

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#PackageManagers After a long time where npm failed to install packages and lot's of googling on answers, we switched to Yarn and alomost all those problems where solved. Today i mostly use "yarn add" instead of "npm install --save".

12 upvotes·4 comments·8.8K views

Decision about Yarn, Redux, React, jQuery, vuex, Vue.js, MongoDB, Redis, PostgreSQL, Sidekiq, Rails, Font-awesome, Bulma.io

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I'm building a new process management tool. I decided to build with Rails as my backend, using Sidekiq for background jobs. I chose to work with these tools because I've worked with them before and know that they're able to get the job done. They may not be the sexiest tools, but they work and are reliable, which is what I was optimizing for. For data stores, I opted for PostgreSQL and Redis. Because I'm planning on offering dashboards, I wanted a SQL database instead of something like MongoDB that might work early on, but be difficult to use as soon as I want to facilitate aggregate queries.

On the front-end I'm using Vue.js and vuex in combination with #Turbolinks. In effect, I want to render most pages on the server side without key interactions being managed by Vue.js . This is the first project I'm working on where I've explicitly decided not to include jQuery . I have found React and Redux.js more confusing to setup. I appreciate the opinionated approach from the Vue.js community and that things just work together the way that I'd expect. To manage my javascript dependencies, I'm using Yarn .

For CSS frameworks, I'm using #Bulma.io. I really appreciate it's minimal nature and that there are no hard javascript dependencies. And to add a little spice, I'm using #font-awesome.

8 upvotes·1 comment·19.9K views

Decision at StackShare about npm, Yarn

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Lead Engineer at StackShare ·

We use Yarn because at the time we decided to adopt it, npm had some missing features and issues. We like the speed and determinism provided by Yarn. We could probably use npm at this point, but we have no real reason to switch from Yarn. If you have a convincing argument to switch from npm to Yarn please leave a comment on this decision!

5 upvotes·4.5K views

Decision at Chore Champion about Yarn

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Lead Developer at Chore Champion ·

We use Yarn because it allows us to more simply manage our node_modules. It also simplifies commands and increases speed when installing modules. Our teams module download time was cut in half after switching from NPM to Yarn. We now require all employees to use Yarn (to prevent errors with package-lock.json and yarn.lock).

5 upvotes·1.1K views

Decision about Yarn, TypeScript, React, npm

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CTO at Gemsotec bvba ·

I use npm because I also mainly use React and TypeScript. Since several typings (from DefinitelyTyped) depend on the React typings, Yarn tends to mess up which leads to duplicate libraries present (different versions of the same type definition), which hinders the Typescript compiler. Npm always resolves to a single version per transitive dependency. At least that's my experience with both.

4 upvotes·2.9K views

Decision about Yarn

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I am not sure about the performance of the latest version of npm, whether it is different from my understanding of it below. Because I use npm very rarely when I had the following knowledge.


I use Yarn because, first, yarn is the first tool to lock the version. Second, although npm also supports the lock version, when you use npm to lock the version, and then use package-lock.json on other systems, package-lock.json Will be modified. You understand what I mean, when you deploy projects based on Git...

4 upvotes·1.5K views

Decision at Zulip about Node.js, npm, Yarn

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Founder at Zulip ·

I have mixed feelings on the Yarn/npm/Node.js ecosystem. We use it for Zulip, because you basically have to in order to have a modern JavaScript toolchain. And I like that Yarn lets us pin dependency versions out of the box for predictability in our production releases; we have to do significant work for the Python version of this feature.

But one also deals with broken third-party dependencies uploaded to npm way too often (even ignoring the malicious packages issues that have gotten a lot of press of late). And one mostly has to use nvm in order to pin a specific version of node itself in a maintainable way, and nvm is a mess.

3 upvotes·4.8K views