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Svelte vs Vue.js: What are the differences?
### Svelte vs Vue.js
Svelte and Vue.js are two popular front-end frameworks that aim to simplify web development by providing efficient ways to create interactive web applications. However, there are key differences between the two that developers should consider before choosing one over the other.
1. **Compilation Approach**: Svelte compiles the user interface components at build time into highly optimized vanilla JavaScript code, resulting in smaller bundle sizes and improved performance. In contrast, Vue.js uses a runtime compiler that interprets the templates at runtime, which can impact the overall performance compared to Svelte.
2. **Reactivity System**: Vue.js utilizes a reactive system where changes to data are automatically reflected in the UI using reactivity tracking. On the other hand, Svelte uses a reactive declaration system where reactive statements are explicitly defined, making it more intuitive for developers to understand the data flow within the components.
3. **Size and Overhead**: Svelte has a smaller bundle size compared to Vue.js due to its compile-time approach, which eliminates the need for a runtime library in the final output. This results in faster initial loading times and better performance for Svelte applications, especially in resource-constrained environments.
4. **Build Time vs Runtime**: Svelte shifts the heavy lifting of optimizing the application to build time, ensuring that the final output is as efficient as possible for the browser to interpret. In contrast, Vue.js keeps some of the optimization work at runtime, which can affect the overall performance but offers more flexibility during development.
5. **Learning Curve**: Vue.js follows a more traditional approach to web development with concepts like templates, directives, and components, making it easier for developers familiar with other frameworks to transition. Svelte, on the other hand, introduces a new paradigm of writing components as reactive statements, which may require a steeper learning curve for those new to reactive programming.
6. **Ecosystem and Community Support**: Vue.js has a larger and more established ecosystem with a wide range of plugins, tools, and community support, making it easier for developers to find resources and solutions to common problems. While Svelte's ecosystem is growing rapidly, it may not have the same level of maturity and community support as Vue.js.
In Summary, Svelte and Vue.js differ in their compilation approach, reactivity system, size and overhead, build time vs runtime optimization, learning curve, and ecosystem support.
What is the best MVC stack to build mobile-friendly, light-weight, and fast single-page application with Spring Boot as back-end (Java)? Is Bootstrap still required to front-end layer these days?
The idea is to host on-premise initially with the potential to move to the cloud. Which combo would have minimal developer ramp-up time and low long-term maintenance costs (BAU support)?
React might be a good option if you're considering a mobile app for the future, because of react native. Although, Vue.js has the easiest learning curve and offers a better developer ramp-up time. Vue.js is great to build SPAs, very clean and organized and you won't have a lot of long-term maintenance problems (like AngularJS, for example). Bootstrap can still be used, but with flexbox there's no need anymore.
I recommend React because of less memory occupant compare to Angular, but this will depend on your organisation flexibility. When you use React you need to import different libraries as per your need. On the other side angular is a complete framework.
Performance-wise I vote for react js as it loads up quickly and lighter on the mobile. You can make good PWA with SSR as well.
If you are new to all three react will be a good choice considering, react-native will be useful if you want to build cross platform mobile application today or tomorrow. If you are talking about bootstrap styling framework than it's a choice you can style ur components by ur self or use bootstrap 4.0 framework. The complete stack mentioned above is platform agnostic u can run it anywhere you want be it cloud or on-premise.
Simple datepickers are cumbersome. For such a simple data input, I feel like it takes far too much effort. Ideally, the native input[type="date"] would just work like it does on FF and Chrome, but Safari and Edge don't handle it properly. So I'm left either having a diverging experience based on the browser or I need to choose a library to implement a datepicker since users aren't good at inputing formatted strings.
For React alone there are tons of examples to use https://reactjsexample.com/tag/date/. And then of course there's the bootstrap datepicker (https://bootstrap-datepicker.readthedocs.io/en/latest/), jQueryUI calendar picker, https://github.com/flatpickr/flatpickr, and many more.
How do you recommend going about handling date and time inputs? And then there's always moment.js, but I've observed some users getting stuck when presented with a blank text field. I'm curious to hear what's worked well for people...
In my view, the upside of React is you're likely to find more existing, robust design systems (e.g. sets of components containing anything from buttons to datepickers) in the React ecosystem than Vue. UI frameworks aside, momentjs comes in when you want operate on the date(times) you get back from whatever datepicker you choose (e.g. date formatting, date match).
I find using Vue.js to be easier (more concise / less boilerplate) and more intuitive than writing React. However, there are a lot more readily available React components that I can just plug into my projects. I'm debating whether to use Vue.js or React for an upcoming project that I'm going to use to help teach a friend how to build an interactive frontend. Which would you recommend I use?
I've used both Vue.js and React and I would stick with React. I know that Vue.js seems easier to write and its much faster to pick up however as you mentioned above React has way more ready made components you can just plugin, and the community for React is very big.
It might be a bit more of a steep learning curve for your friend to learn React over Vue.js but I think in the long run its the better option.
I chose to use Vue.js a few years ago mainly for the easy learning curve. I have no experience with React, so I won't make any comparison here. Regarding available components, I never felt locked in because of Vue when looking for components. It happens that a component I wish to use is not available as a Vue component (and nobody published any Vue wrapper for it), but in such cases I was able to quickly hack a Vue wrapper component. In the end I don't think a decision to choose one framework over another should be made solely because of the number of components available. (And not all components in either framework is maintained, bug free, documented or easy to use)
I would also go with React. The learning curve can be a little more difficult but as soon as you got the concepts it's really easy to create things. As everybody has mentioned the React community is huge and it keeps growing, anything you may need for your project there are super high probabilities that you will find it.
React is great, Vue.js is also great. But I'm personally using React, because React is changing the way I look at how JavaScript should be. This is a really big plus for me. Vue is good, but it's just another alternative. Also, too many big companies are using React, that means you can trust it for big projects.
I'd have to concur that I'd advise React. In addition to the reasons mentioned, the developer pool is significantly larger (and also slightly more expensive) for React. In time, engineering costs will even out as more and more teams adopt it. The community support is fantastic, and the available components significant.
Both have their pro's and con's; however to agree what has been mentioned here before; Using Vue.js will be easier as it's learning curve isn't steep; plus learning Vue.js will teach you fundamentals which (in a sense) can be applied to React as well. Community support for React is indeed very big, but Vue.js is also still growing. Component wise, I wouldn't worry to much about that, writing your own components is also a good tool for learning a language.
Having developed in both Vue.js and React, I agree with your assessment of Vue. It does feel light and easier to understand and therefore learn. Seeing that Vue has some genetic roots with React, I would say start your friend out on Vue. If they need to learn React later, that should give them a good foundation. If you have a Pluralsight subscription, look for my course on Vue.js and feel free to use the demo project as a starting point.
Would start with Vue especially if you want to progress more quickly and don't want/need to spend time learning React just for the sake of it. You can always pick up React later if necessary. I would caution about using "more readily available React components" just because they exist.
Anything that interacts with the Internet, websites, applications, etc., while it may be more complex to build, will be easier to maintain in the long run. React offers more flexibility, a much larger support base for knowledge and opinion, and is just as stable asVue.
To make the best comparison in my opinion, think of React as the Android OS and Vue more like iOS. While Vue may be advantageous in some cases, it is limited by constricting parameters. On the other hand, while React may be more complex and incorporate more open-source/third-party constructs, it is supported by over 50,000 npm packages and allows for the use of JSX. Which I might add, once learned, becomes second nature to employ and offers more flexibility.
It all depends. Vue.js is smaller, and from what I saw (benchmarks) faster. It's also slightly more intuitive and easier to grasp. React is more popular, and the adoption rate is much higher.
Again, it all depends.
If I may, my personal choice would perhaps be either React or Svelte.
We did a comparison between React, Vue and Angular and while found each capable of supporting our needs, we ended up using VueJS because of its ease of use, the ability to use templates, large and growing community and good documentation. After developing on it for a around 4 months we re-evaluated and agreed that we had made the right choice and continue to migrate our products/platform to it.
I would recommend both of them since Vue is a UI library and helps you to design beautiful website while react allows you to handle backend problems like comment management and onspot reloading more efficiently also react includes useState and react is a framework while vue is a library
It is hard to say which is good. I've used both. Vue is easier. But I feel more comfortable with React. That is why I chose React.
VueJS hands down. Which components do you need? Have a look at Vuetify, mature project, plenty of components ready to plug and play. If on the other side you need more customization, have a look at tailwindcss. VueJS is much cleaner and IMO will overtake React soon. It's simply a better React.
Virtual dom and JSX. Vue is just a baby to the race. React has it's mobile platform version as react native . so it would be easy for you and you wont reinvent the wheel again for mobile apps.
As others have stated there are more canned components available for React, but your observation about it's complexity is an important one. There are architectural aspects of Vue.js that lead to cleaner more concise solutions. As React apps get bigger they become a little unwieldy. Depending on your requirements you need to weigh those competing concerns. Our team is using React, but I am beginning to question that choice as time goes on. Another consideration is that Vue.js is becoming more mature as we speak. Also as others join the project, react developers should be productive in Vue.js within days. Just my 2 cents...
We choose React for our client-side implementation because of React's virtual DOM implementation and component rendering optimization. It can help our app to be more stable and easier to debug. Also, react has strong support from the dev community. There is an enormous amount of reacting libraries we could use, which will speed up our development process.
As a backend dev, it was quite easy to go with vue over react. Important note that Im now talking about Vue2 maybe the are crucial changes in third version, but the second one is super easy to get into without spending too much time learning concepts. And vue-cli is just a breeze to start a project with.
What a debate to wade into - React vs. Vue.js. Prototyping of applications is much, much faster in Vue.js. React, I believe, has a much heavier developer learning experience - so hiring pure Javascript developers allows us to work in a much more framework agnostic way. However, React still has a place within our application stack - it's much more performant out of the box.
Starting a new company in 2020, with a whole new stack, is a really interesting opportunity for me to look back over the last 20 years of my career with web software and make the right decision for my company.
And, I went with the most radical decision– which is to ignore "sexy" / "hype" technologies almost entirely, and go back to a stack that I first used over 15 years ago.
For my purposes, we are building a video streaming platform, where I wanted rapid customer-facing feature development, high testability, simple scaling, and ease of hiring great, experienced talent. To be clear, our web platform is NOT responsible for handling the actual bits and bytes of the video itself, that's an entirely different stack. It simply needs to manage the business rules and the customers experience of the video content.
I reviewed a lot of different technologies, but none of them seemed to fit the bill as well as Rails did! The hype train had long left the station with Rails, and the community is a little more sparse than it was previously. And, to be honest, Ruby was the language that was easiest for developers, but I find that most languages out there have adopted many of it's innovations for ease of use – or at least corrected their own.
Even with all of that, Rails still seems like the best framework for developing web applications that are no more complex than they need to be. And that's key to me, because it's very easy to go use React and Redux and GraphQL and a whole host of AWS Lamba's to power my blog... but you simply don't actually NEED that.
There are two choices I made in our stack that were new for me personally, and very different than what I would have chosen even 5 years ago.
1) Postgres - I decided to switch from MySql to Postgres for this project. I wanted to use UUID's instead of numeric primary keys, and knew I'd have a couple places where better JSON/object support would be key. Mysql remains far more popular, but almost every developer I respect has switched and preferred Postgres with a strong passion. It's not "sexy" but it's considered "better".
2) Stimulus.js - This was definitely the biggest and wildest choice to make. Stimulus is a Javascript framework by my old friend Sam Stephenson (Prototype.js, rbenv, turbolinks) and DHH, and it is a sort of radical declaration that your Javascript in the browser can be both powerful and modern AND simple. It leans heavily on the belief that HTML-is-good and that data-* attributes are good. It focuses on the actions and interactions and not on the rendering aspects. It took me a while to wrap my head around, and I still have to remind myself, that server-side-HTML is how you solve many problems with this stack, and avoid trying to re-render things just in the browser. So far, I'm happy with this choice, but it is definitely a radical departure from the current trends.
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I honestly think the best choice for which framework you use should come down to your team's skills. If you have one Senior Dev that is great at React, but like 3-4 mid-level devs, and a handful of junior devs that know Vue.js ... maybe look at using Vue.js a little more seriously.
Yes, there are pros and cons to framework decisions, but I honestly see a LOT of teams not even consider whether a specific framework is a good fit.
I honestly think the best choice for which framework you use should come down to your team's skills. If you have one Senior Dev that is great at React, but like 3-4 mid-level devs, and a handful of junior devs that know Angular ... maybe look at using Angular a little more seriously.
Yes, there are pros and cons to framework decisions, but I honestly see a LOT of teams not even consider whether a specific framework is a good fit.
I have made an extended effort to drop frameworks completely if they are not actually needed. While I still use JS Frameworks like Vue, Angular and React ( if I have too ), I see far too often devs / teams deciding to build a single page site entirely in a framework, rather than just using HTML, CSS and a little JS.
I personally feel it's important to know when a framework is a good solution, and maybe when it's overkill.
It was easier to find people who've worked on React than Vue. Angular did not have this problem, but seemed way too bloated compared to React. Angular also brings in restrictions working within their MVC framework. React on the other hand only handles the view/rendering part and rest of the control is left to the developers. React has a very active community, support and has lots of ready-to-use plugins/libraries available.
Working on a new SaaS web/mobile app and ended up with React as our choice of Frontend JavaScript framework for SPA web version with React Native for iOS, Android, Windows clients.
The key takeaways:
Both frameworks can do the job quite well for us. This might be true for the majority of utility web apps being built out there as well, so there was no "wrong" decision here.
Vue is often cited as easier to learn and code on. But only in case your engineers never worked with either Vue or React and start learning them from scratch. In our case, we knew we'll be hiring engineers who already have experience in the framework we'll select - so it was not a big argument for Vue.
We're building our engineering team in Ukraine and realised we have 3(!) times more engineers with React experience on the market than having Vue experience.
Mobile - React Native, despite being a different framework, still shares a lot with React and it's just easier for React developers to start using React Native in days.
The strongest points for our decision:
React community is larger, means more/faster answers to your questions and existing components.
Way more experienced React engineers on the market.
React + React Native is a great combo if you're building web and mobile clients of the same app.
Pros of Svelte
- Performance57
- Reactivity40
- Components35
- Simplicity35
- Javascript compiler (do that browsers don't have to)34
- Lightweight30
- Near to no learning curve28
- Fast as vanilajs26
- Real Reactivity26
- All in one22
- Compiler based18
- Use existing js libraries18
- SSR17
- Scalable16
- Very easy for beginners16
- Composable13
- No runtime overhead12
- Ease of use12
- Built in store10
- Typescript9
- Start with pure html + css7
- Best Developer Experience7
- Templates6
- Speed4
Pros of Vue.js
- Simple and easy to start with294
- Good documentation230
- Components196
- Simple the best131
- Simplified AngularJS100
- Reactive95
- Intuitive APIs78
- Javascript56
- Changed my front end coding life52
- Configuration is smooth48
- Easy to learn38
- So much fun to use36
- Progressive26
- Virtual dom22
- Faster than bulldogs on hot tarmac16
- It's magic12
- Component is template, javascript and style in one12
- Light Weight10
- Perfomance10
- Best of Both Worlds9
- Application structure8
- Elegant design8
- Intuitive and easy to use8
- Without misleading licenses8
- Small learning curve6
- Good command line interface6
- Logicless templates5
- Single file components5
- Easy to integrate to HTML by inline-templates5
- Like Angular only quicker to get started with5
- High performance4
- Component based3
- Vuex3
- Bridge from Web Development to JS Development3
- Customer Render ending eg to HTML3
- Lots of documentation2
- Concise error messages2
- Supports several template languages2
- One-way data flow2
- Intuitive2
- GUI1
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Cons of Svelte
- Event Listener Overload3
- Little to no libraries2
- Complex2
- Learning Curve2
- Hard to learn2
Cons of Vue.js
- Less Common Place9
- YXMLvsHTML Markup5
- Don't support fragments3
- Only support programatically multiple root nodes3
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