Django vs Phoenix Framework: What are the differences?
Django: The Web framework for perfectionists with deadlines. Django is a high-level Python Web framework that encourages rapid development and clean, pragmatic design; Phoenix Framework: Most web frameworks make you choose between speed and a productive environment. Phoenix gives you both. Phoenix is a framework for building HTML5 apps, API backends and distributed systems. Written in Elixir, you get beautiful syntax, productive tooling and a fast runtime.
Django and Phoenix Framework can be categorized as "Frameworks (Full Stack)" tools.
"Rapid development", "Open source" and "Great community" are the key factors why developers consider Django; whereas "High performance", "Super fast" and "Rapid development" are the primary reasons why Phoenix Framework is favored.
Django and Phoenix Framework are both open source tools. Django with 42.3K GitHub stars and 18.2K forks on GitHub appears to be more popular than Phoenix Framework with 13.9K GitHub stars and 1.75K GitHub forks.
Instagram, Pinterest, and Udemy are some of the popular companies that use Django, whereas Phoenix Framework is used by DNSBL.io, inkl, and The RealReal. Django has a broader approval, being mentioned in 979 company stacks & 882 developers stacks; compared to Phoenix Framework, which is listed in 73 company stacks and 46 developer stacks.
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Around the time of their Series A, Pinterest’s stack included Python and Django, with Tornado and Node.js as web servers. Memcached / Membase and Redis handled caching, with RabbitMQ handling queueing. Nginx, HAproxy and Varnish managed static-delivery and load-balancing, with persistent data storage handled by MySQL.
In late 2015, following the Series G, Pinterest began migrating their web experience to React, primarily because they “found React rendered faster than our previous template engine, had fewer obstacles to iterating on features and had a large developer community.”
The legacy setup consistent of Django, Python and Jinja on the backend, with Nunjucks handling template rendering on the client side. They wanted to move to React for handling template rendering across the board, but if they “switched the client-side rendering engine from Nunjucks to React, [they’d] also have to switch [their] server-side rendering, so they could share the same template syntax.”
Now, when a user agent makes a request, a latent module render requests that it needs data via an API call. Concurrently, a separate network call is made “to a co-located Node process to render the template as far as it can go with the data that it has.”
Node then responds with rendered templates, and along with a “holes” array to indicate what data was still needed to complete the render. Finally, the Python webapp makes an API call to fetch the remaining data, and each module is sent back to Node as completely independent module requests/in parallel/.
With this framework in place, Pinterest developers are in the process of replacing Nunjucks code with React components throughout the codebase.
Since 2011 our frontend was in Django monolith. However, in 2016 we decide to separate #Frontend from Django for independent development and created the custom isomorphic app based on Node.js and React. Now we realized that not need all abilities of the server, and it is sufficient to generate a static site. Gatsby is suitable for our purposes. We can generate HTML from markdown and React views very simply. So, we are updating our frontend to Gatsby now, and maybe we will use Netlify for deployment soon. This will speed up the delivery of new features to production.
Zulip has been powered by Django since the very early days of its development with Django 1.4, back in 2012. As a reasonably mature web application with significant scale, we're at the stage in many companies' development where one starts to rip out more and more of the web framework to optimize things or just make them work the way we want. (E.g. while I was at Dropbox in early 2016, we discovered we only had about 600 lines of code left from the original Pylons framework that actually ran).
One of the things that has been really fantastic about Django is that we're still happily using it for the vast majority of code in the project, and every time Django comes out with a new release, I read the changelog and get excited about several improvements that actually make my life better. While Django has made some design decisions that I don't agree with (e.g. I'm not a fan of Django REST framework, and think it makes life more difficult), Django also makes it easy to do your own thing, which we've done to great effect (see the linked article for details on our
Overall I think we've gotten a ton of value out of Python and Django and would recommend it to anyone starting a new full-featured web application project today.