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Chef vs Salt: What are the differences?

  1. Orchestration vs Configuration management: Chef is primarily designed for configuration management, which involves defining and enforcing system configurations across multiple nodes. It allows users to define the desired state of a system and Chef takes care of converging the actual state to the desired state. On the other hand, Salt is more focused on orchestration and remote execution. It enables users to execute commands or scripts on individual or multiple nodes, making it ideal for tasks such as deployment, monitoring, and managing complex infrastructures.

  2. Master-Slave Architecture vs Masterless/Autonomous Architecture: Chef follows a traditional master-slave architecture, where there is a central server (master) that manages the configuration for multiple client nodes (slaves). The clients periodically pull the configuration from the server. In contrast, Salt follows a masterless or autonomous architecture, where every node can act as both a master and a minion. Each minion has a local copy of the configuration, allowing for more flexibility and resilience in case of network or server failures.

  3. Domain-Specific Language vs Remote Execution and Task Execution System: Chef defines its configurations using a domain-specific language (DSL) called Ruby DSL or Chef DSL. It provides a rich set of resources and libraries to express system configurations. Salt, on the other hand, uses YAML or Jinja templates to define configurations. Additionally, Salt provides a powerful remote execution and task execution system, allowing users to perform tasks and run commands on targeted minions, making it more suitable for managing dynamic infrastructure.

  4. Scalability and Performance: While both Chef and Salt can handle large-scale deployments, Salt is generally considered to be more scalable and performant. Salt leverages ZeroMQ as its transport layer, which provides high-speed messaging and parallel execution capabilities, making it efficient in managing large infrastructures with thousands of nodes. Chef, on the other hand, relies on a client-pull model, which can introduce delays and overhead for larger deployments.

  5. Plug-in Ecosystem: Chef has a mature and extensive plug-in ecosystem, with a wide range of community-contributed cookbooks that provide ready-made recipes for various applications and services. This makes it easier for Chef users to automate the deployment and management of popular software stacks. Salt, although also having a growing plug-in ecosystem, may not have the same breadth and depth of available modules and plug-ins as Chef.

  6. Community and Adoption: Both Chef and Salt have active communities, but Chef has been around longer and has a larger user base. As a result, it may be easier to find resources, documentation, and support for Chef. However, Salt has gained popularity in recent years due to its ease of use and performance advantages, and its community and adoption are steadily growing.

In Summary, Chef is primarily focused on configuration management with a master-slave architecture, while Salt emphasizes orchestration and remote execution with a masterless architecture. Salt is often considered more scalable and performant, with a powerful task execution system, while Chef has a more extensive plug-in ecosystem and a larger user base.

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Rogério R. Alcântara
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Personal Dotfiles management

Given that they are all “configuration management” tools - meaning they are designed to deploy, configure and manage servers - what would be the simplest - and yet robust - solution to manage personal dotfiles - for n00bs.

Ideally, I reckon, it should:

  • be containerized (Docker?)
  • be versionable (Git)
  • ensure idempotency
  • allow full automation (tests, CI/CD, etc.)
  • be fully recoverable (Linux/ macOS)
  • be easier to setup/manage (as much as possible)

Does it make sense?

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terry chay
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I recommend whatever you are most comfortable with/whatever might already be installed in the system. Note that, for personal dotfiles, it does not need to be containerized or have full automation/testing. It just needs to handle multiple OS and platform and be idempotent. Git will handle the heavy lifting. Note that you'll have to separate out certain files like the private SSH keys and write your CM so that it will pull it from another store or assist in manually importing them.

I personally use Ansible since it is a serverless design and is in Python, which I prefer to Ruby. Saltstack was too new when I started to port my dotfile management scripts from shell into a configuration management tool. I think any of the above is fine.

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You should check out SaltStack. It's a lot more powerful than Puppet, Chef, & Ansible. If not Salt, then I would go Ansible. But stay away from Puppet & Chef. 10+ year user of Puppet, and 2+ year user of Chef.

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Attila Fulop
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Chef is a definite no-go for me. I learned it the hard way (ie. got a few tasks in a prod system) and it took quite a lot to grasp it on an acceptable level. Ansible in turn is much more straightforward and much easier to test.

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I'm just getting started using Vagrant to help automate setting up local VMs to set up a Kubernetes cluster (development and experimentation only). (Yes, I do know about minikube)

I'm looking for a tool to help install software packages, setup users, etc..., on these VMs. I'm also fairly new to Ansible, Chef, and Puppet. What's a good one to start with to learn? I might decide to try all 3 at some point for my own curiosity.

The most important factors for me are simplicity, ease of use, shortest learning curve.

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I have been working with Puppet and Ansible. The reason why I prefer ansible is the distribution of it. Ansible is more lightweight and therefore more popular. This leads to situations, where you can get fully packaged applications for ansible (e.g. confluent) supported by the vendor, but only incomplete packages for Puppet.

The only advantage I would see with Puppet if someone wants to use Foreman. This is still better supported with Puppet.

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If you are just starting out, might as well learn Kubernetes There's a lot of tools that come with Kube that make it easier to use and most importantly: you become cloud-agnostic. We use Ansible because it's a lot simpler than Chef or Puppet and if you use Docker Compose for your deployments you can re-use them with Kubernetes later when you migrate

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Pros of Chef
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    Dynamic and idempotent server configuration
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    Reusable components
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    Integration testing with Vagrant
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    Repeatable
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    Mock testing with Chefspec
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    Ruby
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    Can package cookbooks to guarantee repeatability
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    Works with AWS
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    Has marketplace where you get readymade cookbooks
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    Matured product with good community support
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    Less declarative more procedural
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    Open source configuration mgmt made easy(ish)
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    Flexible
  • 30
    Easy
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    Remote execution
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    Enormously flexible
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    Great plugin API
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    Python
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    Extensible
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    Scalable
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    nginx
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    Vagrant provisioner
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    HipChat
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    Best IaaC
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    Automatisation
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    Parallel Execution

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      Bloated
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      Dangerous
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      No immutable infrastructure

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    What is Chef?

    Chef enables you to manage and scale cloud infrastructure with no downtime or interruptions. Freely move applications and configurations from one cloud to another. Chef is integrated with all major cloud providers including Amazon EC2, VMWare, IBM Smartcloud, Rackspace, OpenStack, Windows Azure, HP Cloud, Google Compute Engine, Joyent Cloud and others.

    What is Salt?

    Salt is a new approach to infrastructure management. Easy enough to get running in minutes, scalable enough to manage tens of thousands of servers, and fast enough to communicate with them in seconds. Salt delivers a dynamic communication bus for infrastructures that can be used for orchestration, remote execution, configuration management and much more.

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