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Attila Fulop
Attila Fulop

Apr 2, 2021

I've been using both Bugsnag and Sentry for years and I would recommend both of them and as Tom Maiaroto mentioned "they are roughly the same". Bugzilla is a different kind of animal, that is more of an issue tracker like Jira or Redmine.

Despite what Tom Maiaroto wrote, we're using these tools more for the backend and less for the frontend, so I am going to give a brief insight into how we use them in our Telemetry stack for monitoring the backend.

Sentry and Bugsnag are advertising themselves as Application Monitoring, but their definite focus is on Error Monitoring. This is what they originally were made for and this is were they shine.

A typical confusion is that we think they are mutually replaceable with APM tools like NewRelic's or Datadog's APM. Albeit both are doing very similar things, there are several significant differences:

  • NewRelic/Datadog APMs are sampling exceptions, so you don't have a "complete catalog" of your errors
  • Sentry and Bugsnag are collecting very detailed data (stack trace, HTTP request, user, device, host, etc) of each exception, thus you'll exactly know when, where, how many times and to whom those errors have happened.

The focus of those APMs is broader and can give you a much bigger picture like distributed tracing, logs, processes on the hosts at the given moment just to name a few. But they are not designed to give you a laser focus on each specific error.

So the bottom line is that they are complementing each other.

Sentry is more affordable especially if you have more than 5 users. I personally prefer Bugsnag because of the cleaner UI. But at the end of the day, they're both very valuable and lovely gadgets in our toolbox and help us a lot being on top of our systems

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Attila Fulop
Attila Fulop

Feb 11, 2021

I have hands on production experience both with New Relic and Datadog. I personally prefer Datadog over NewRelic because of the UI, the Documentation and the overall user/developer experience.

NewRelic however, can do basically the same things as Datadog can, and some of the features like alerting have been present in NewRelic for longer than in Datadog. The cool thing about NewRelic is their last-summer-updated pricing: you no longer pay per host but after data you send towards New Relic. This can be a huge cost saver depending on your particular setup

https://docs.newrelic.com/docs/accounts/accounts-billing/new-relic-one-pricing-billing/new-relic-one-pricing-billing

I'd go for Datadog, but given you have lots of containers I would also make a cost calculation. If the price difference is significant and there's a budget constraint NewRelic might be the better choice.

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Attila Fulop
Attila Fulop

Mar 24, 2020

I haven't heard much about Datadog until about a year ago. Ironically, the NewRelic sales person who I had a series of trainings with was trash talking about Datadog a lot. That drew my attention to Datadog and I gave it a try at another client project where we needed log handling, dashboards and alerting.

In 2019, Datadog was already offering log management and from that perspective, it was ahead of NewRelic. Other than that, from my perspective, the two tools are offering a very-very similar set of tools. Therefore I wouldn't say there's a significant difference between the two, the decision is likely a matter of taste. The pricing is also very similar.

The reasons why we chose Datadog over NewRelic were:

  • The presence of log handling feature (since then, logging is GA at NewRelic as well since falls 2019).
  • The setup was easier even though I already had experience with NewRelic, including participation in NewRelic trainings.
  • The UI of Datadog is more compact and my experience is smoother.
  • The NewRelic UI is very fragmented and New Relic One is just increasing this experience for me.
  • The log feature of Datadog is very well designed, I find very useful the tagging logs with services. The log filtering is also very awesome.

Bottom line is that both tools are great and it makes sense to discover both and making the decision based on your use case. In our case, Datadog was the clear winner due to its UI, ease of setup and the awesome logging and alerting features.

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